Posted below is a recent conversation I had with a public health academic. I felt it was worthy to share. Please add your insight on how vaccines impact public health in the comment section. One point I failed to mention in this conversation is that graphs accurately depicting health data show that rates of deaths due to infectious illness had experienced dramatic decreases prior to the introduction of vaccines. This includes disease for which no vaccines were ever successfully developed. Something to explore further another time…

“I’m an evidenced based practice researcher and public health professor. One that’s actually contributed to textbooks on public health issues. I’ll be honest, you stating that scientists “know about the public health risks of vaccines, but choose not to say anything.” is a disturbing and definitive statement for someone who doesn’t work in the field.

Public health practitioners, vaccinologists, and immunologists, spend their life’s work trying to meet the health needs of the population. Yes, there are risks to taking vaccines, as there are with any type of medication or drug. In this particular scenario, the benefits of vaccines far outweigh those risks. Period. The End.

You know how people determined that? Evidence based practice through clinical trials and countless years of scientific research. Years and years of labor intensive quality science.

You want to talk about Wakefield? He’s a disgrace to the scientific community and evidence based practice. Want to know why his article got retracted from one of the most reputable scientific journals in the country? Because he falsified his methods and results. That is not ok!

I suggest you go to reputable peer-reviewed research if you’re really interested in the issue. You won’t find one article that indicates that vaccines cause autism? Not a one. Correlation also doesn’t imply causation, but you won’t find reputable research that indicates that, either.”

Wow. It’s really awesome that you are so committed to public health, and actually lecture students on this topic. I am sure you will want to make 100% sure every fact you share is thoroughly substantiated. I’m just a mom, a grandmother, a truth seeker and sharer, and a breastfeeding counselor for 23 years. You are also correct, generalizations should not be made because they are not helpful and do not prove points. I apologize for my generalized statement.

Yes, I understand that many in the field of public health spend their lives trying to figure out how to improve health in populations. My father spent his entire career working for the CDC. He was an MD who chose to become a research scientist in the area of virology. He and I had many conversations about the public health benefits and risks of vaccines. Back then we had to share paper copies of research we could find. The internet just makes information so much more accessible. I also wholeheartedly endorse evidence based research – and question all evidence that is presented.

Interesting that you say there is not one article to indicate “that vaccines cause autism”. I don’t think I had ever made the point that they do, nor has Dr Wakefield. My main focus is NOT that vaccines cause autism, but that vaccines cause a wide range of serious injury, including debilitating auto-immune conditions, allergies, and long term impacts – far more than the public is led to understand – and that the risks of the vaccine should be seriously evaluated to determine if they are actually greater than the risk of having the infectious disease with appropriate effective treatment. More and more researchers in the field are coming to understand that autism is a neuroinflammatory condition. Official channels poured so much money into finding a genetic connection, but after over a decade of research, seem to have concluded that there is no clear genetic cause, although certain gene mutations, such as the MTHFR could make some more at risk.

Have you read the published work by Dr Chris Shaw? I’ve linked a very short video where he summarizes his findings. Using the latest available information and technology, he looked at the impact of injecting rats with amounts of aluminum that would compare with the amounts of aluminum currently injected into babies in the CDC recommended schedule of vaccines. He was pretty shocked by the result. The most startling part of his research is the complete lack of response. No one criticized his methods, told him where/how he was wrong. Just complete silence. You should check it out. Of course you will probably find, if you ‘search on the internet’ people who criticize him. I’m sure you can wade through to find the true facts.

Another very interesting case is the case of Hannah Poling. Her father was a neurologist and the Poling’s made a claim to the NVICP – I’m sure you know what that is, but for others, it is the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program set up in 1988 to pay out families whose children were killed or injured by vaccines. To date it has paid out $3.9 billion dollars to those who manage to prove their claim of damage due to vaccines while arguing against Department of Justice lawyers in a closed courtroom without full access to the legal process of disclosure. Anyway, Hannah Poling’s case was interesting because she regressed into autism following vaccines with serious permanent disabilities and her family was awarded a significant amount to compensate for her claim. I think it was determined that she has a ‘mitochondria disorder’ which was why the vaccines had caused the autism-like symptoms. A law professor, Mary Holland from NYU School of Law, then published a detailed analysis of the NVICP data and found that about 86 other cases matching the diagnosis of autism have been paid by this ‘vaccine court. Interesting. The lawyers and judge must have been convinced that the vaccines caused their autism symptoms.

Did you know that Congressman Posey has received ±100,000 pages of documents from Dr William Thompson, Senior Research Scientist at CDC, and that he was awarded whistleblower status by President Obama? He admitted that his epidemiological study was fraudulent and that the study authors, including Frank De Stefano and Colleen Boyle, destroyed data in order to hide the evidence of harm from vaccines. Actually, I think he stated that Colleen Boyle refused to attend the ‘destroy the evidence’ meeting, so all the other lower ranking authors had to do that job. He explained quite clearly the different role players, the disturbing results they found, and what they were told – from their bosses – to destroy. One of the specific facts they were especially eager to hide was the connection between African American boys and a higher risk of autism if they received their vaccines on time. I believe the figure is about 300% increase for that group.

Another interesting Scientist who has published in this field is Poul Thorsen. He worked at the CDC and has his name on some epidemiological papers. He is currently one of the top 10 most wanted fugitives on the FBI’s website for his role in embezzlement against the CDC, yet the CDC keeps promoting his studies.

Did you know that US Government departments, including the CDC and NIH, hold patents on over 20 vaccines and therefore benefit financially?

And, as to Dr Wakefield being a disgrace to the medical community, I don’t think you could be more wrong. I don’t think you will find a more compassionate, selfless humanitarian in the world. Despite all the assaults – like this one – on him personally and professionally, he continues his struggle to help those dealing with devastating neurological damage. You should really find out what the parents of his patients think about him. Imagine if someone were saying those types of remarks about you without even knowing you?

And finally, what I should have said, is that the 54 scientists called together to CDC’s secret meeting at the Simpsonwood Retreat Center in June 2000 were all in the realm of ‘public health officials’ and they all were appraised of the latest findings by a young CDC epidemiologist, Dr. Thomas Verstraeten. He presented his research demonstrating a clear ‘signal’ between vaccines and neurological damage that just ‘would not go away.’ The 200+ pages of the transcript from that meeting, freely available to the public through FOIA requests, demonstrates exactly how much they did know and how they responded to this information. Especially poignant was the response by the WHO representative – arguably the most significant public health official of all –

“But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect that it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say…My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day that 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.” – Dr. John Clements, World Health Organization, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

Strange that as a serious public health official, he was more committed to getting vaccines into children than looking into the possible harm those vaccines were causing. Dr Thomas Verstraeten, the lead CDC epidemiologist analyzing the Generation Zero data showing a high correlation between mercury and autism, was frustrated by the focus of participants on managing information, liability, and reputations, rather than on science and data. He wrote this in an email on July 14, 2000 to Dr. Phillipe Grandjean:

“Unfortunately, I have witnessed how many experts, looking at this thimerosal issue, do not seem bothered to compare apples to pears at the best and insist that if nothing is happening in these studies [referring to some old science on other types of mercury exposure] then nothing should be feared of thimerosal.

I do not wish to be the advocate of the anti-vaccine lobby and sound like being convinced that thimerosal is or was harmful, but at least I feel we should use sound scientific argumentation and not let our standards be dictated by our desire to disprove an unpleasant theory.”

I applaud you if you have read this far. I’m happy to discuss anything further. I’m sure I don’t know as much as you do, and I haven’t read all your text books, but I am 100% committed to finding the truth and helping parents have healthy happy babies. I believe we achieve the best health, as individuals and as communities, by boosting the innate immune system and the body’s own defense against infectious disease. It is critically important to understand the two different branches of immunity and how vaccines impact overall health and immune response. So much has been discovered in the last 10 years that many of the foundations on which vaccines were developed must be allowed to be questioned. Science is never settled. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of scientists and doctors who have spent thousands of hours reviewing all vaccine related science and seeking to make sense of the devastation in the wake of vaccines.

One of these is Dr Aaby. With others, he published a paper in 2017 on research to understand the impact of vaccination in a retrospective look at Guinea Bissau. But since you are current in the field of public health, I guess you may have already read it. His conclusion must have been disturbing for him since he is such a strong proponent of vaccines.

Another scientist examined the evidence and was forced to change his opinion. As a world leading researcher in the area of aluminum toxicity, the words of Dr Chris Exley are profound: “I did not see a role for aluminum in autism. And I didn’t see a role for aluminum in vaccines in autism. I have to change my mind now on both of these. I have to change my mind that aluminum has a role in autism. I believe it now does.” –Dr Chris Exley, 2017

So many doctors, pediatricians and others, who have taken the time to review the literature for themselves – and not just the promotional material provided by the manufacturers – have started speaking out about their observations. Dr Bob Zajac is one. In this interview he makes some amazing observations, particularly of note is that in his pediatric practice, the fully vaccinated children are the sickest, partially vaccinated are healthier, but the healthiest by far are the non-vaccinated children.

I sincerely pray that all who read this will continue their own research until they are satisfied that the risks of the vaccine are lower than the risk of getting the actual disease, with the up-to-date effective inexpensive treatment options available to us today. A lifetime of vaccine injury carries an emotional, physical, and financial cost that is an enormous burden to the individual and the public. Don’t take my word for it. Research the facts for yourself (I have compiled some info as a starting point, for those who would find this helpful). If you do decide to vaccinate someone you love, please read this to make sure you are fully informed on many aspects not known or shared by those administering the vaccine, and read this to prepare to reduce the possible risk of vaccine harm.

Author: Becky Hastings, wife, mother, grandmother, passionate follower of Jesus and truth. As a breastfeeding counselor for over 23 years Becky is devoted to helping parents make wise decisions for the long-term health and wellbeing of their babies. As a member of a Vaccine Safety Education Coalition, Becky writes and speaks on the topic of vaccine safety.